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By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz December 22, 2020
Concerning a recent pathetic tirade which we only reluctantly address To Whom It May Concern, Christian Greetings & Season’s Blessings. A Moriel volunteer who monitors the internet forwarded us a link to a ridiculous video entitled: ‘Jacob the deceiver’. While we have had no correspondence from our subscribers regarding this new attempted maelstrom of defamatory and slanderous cyber harassment against Moriel & James Jacob Prasch, once again by Deborah Menelaws of ‘Studio Scotland’, we do wish to pre-empt any with a quick and to the point reaction. Admittedly, most people , like ourselves, are long tired of this cyber vendetta, and their GV 24/7 gets too few views to take very seriously. We therefore only respond to her latest baseless polemic “Jacob the deceiver”, for the sake of any of our newer subscribers who per chance may see it, (although we have not heard from any), doing so with reluctance.
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An object lesson in strategy and diplomacy for every democratic nation – by Melanie Philips
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This is a much-needed message regarding Joseph Prince that is best presented by another Chinese Singaporean rather than by a Westerner. https://youtu.be/1SEI8oG-t_8
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz November 8, 2020
Upcoming Event! Live Zoom & Moriel TV Bible Study with James Jacob Prasch Study Topic: Introduction to Colossians Date: Wednesday March 3, 2021 Time: 11 a.m. PST, 2 p.m. EST, 7 p.m. GMT JOIN ON ZOOM – CLICK HERE OR ON YOUTUBE – CLICK HERE 
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MORIEL PODCAST · The great Distortion of Calvinism
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HOW MORIEL, MORIEL MISSIONS, MORIEL TV, MORIEL QUARTERLY, and MORIEL SOCIAL MEDIA WORK ADMINISTRATIVELY, FINANCIALLY and LEGALLY. Moriel.org, Moriel TV, BE ALERT, Moriel TV Facebook, and all printed and social media material of Moriel are exclusively published, web hosted, web served, and web posted in the USA only by Moriel USA (a US 5013 non profit organisation). Moriel USA, most members of the Moriel team (including James Jacob Prasch), are American based and are legally domiciled in the USA (Coved has however stranded some missionaries and team members abroad). Moriel Australia , UK, Canada , (and 8 other countries) are all legally and financially – totally separate from one another as independent legally incorporated or chartered entities, and none have any ownership, operating control. or responsibility for web posted or published material of the platforms which are incorporated in the USA. All are affiliated on the basis of common Christian doctrine and mission goals only. Mission projects are funded from multiple international branches, All inquiries concerning Moriel TV and Moriel Social Media, as well as publications, are forwarded to the USA where they are established and legally located. The independent international Moriel agencies outside of The USA exercise no executive responsibility, and hold no liability, or propriety for these American platforms or their content. All content is the intellectual property of Moriel USA. Each country’s Moriel organization is 100% legally and financially autonomous and self administrated. Moriel is a united theological voice only, but is not a legal, financial, or administrative monolith.
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz November 8, 2020
We will resume Wednesday Bible Studies on RTN TV at 7:00pm British Time next Wednesday (12:00 noon EST, 9:00am PST) April 28th by livestream, We hope to re-introduce ZOOM shortly after that. The Live Stream will be available on both RTN TV and Moriel TV.
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Upcoming Livestream Bible Study with James Jacob Prasch Saturday, March 20, 2021 4 p.m. PST, 7 p.m. EST, 11 p.m. GMT Study Topic: Jonah Watch the live broadcast on YouTube or RTN TV! Click on  here to watch via RTN TV LiveStream meeting, or click here for YouTube
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Upcoming Event! Live Zoom & Moriel TV Bible Study with James Jacob Prasch Study Topic: Colossians Chapter 2 Date: Wednesday March 17, 2021 Time: 11 a.m. PST, 2 p.m. EST, 7 p.m. GMT Join the Bible study live on Zoom or watch the live broadcast on YouTube. A question & answer session with Jacob is planned after the teaching. CLICK HERE TO JOIN ON ZOOM OR ON YOUTUBE – CLICK HERE
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MORIEL PODCAST · What is the Apostacy-JAMES JACOB PRASCH
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https://youtu.be/ccvJmQBnkyw Description: The Screen shots and the of the content screen shots in this film come under ‘Fair Use’. Two Narratives, which one is true?
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
Another new Moriel video: Christ “Is Returning! Is this the 4th Reich?” Link to Youtube: https://youtu.be/S62k6Rk9iS0 Description “Throw out everything you think you know about past history. Close the approved textbooks, turn off the corporate mass media, and whatever you do, don’t believe anything you hear from the government. In this video, Jacob, reveals the frighteningly real possibility that today the radical left globally, is becoming the Fourth Reich, the continuation of an ideology thought to have been vanquished more than a half century ago”.
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
Good morning brothers and sisters, please see, “Compilation Questions by Jacob Prasch” on MorielTV. m Link MorielTV Youtube:https://youtu.be/vDUMM5LorV4 RTN Link: https://rtntv.org/Videos?id=5f777fef337df3d0b9a2b9d0
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
Amir Tsarfati – Cyber Bully – MTV https://youtu.be/eAHhYeH8SfY Copyright Violation is wrong. Filing complaints for legitimate violations is both ethical and appropriate. Lying however is not. To misrepresent a “FAIR USE’ citation of a clip as a Copyright Violation is both dishonest and despotic. To further claim that a video not even showing clips of the complainant (Amir Tsarfati) is a ‘Copyright Violation’, in order to suppress open, fair, and reasonable doctrinal disagreement or theological discussion – is nothing short of lying. Amir Tsarfati’s dishonest actions are shameful and unbecoming of someone claiming to be a saved believer in Yeshua. How can an Israeli professing to be a follower of his Messiah go to the secular world and make false accusations against fellow believers like this? This is done only to silence criticism of his teaching, which many believers who support Israel, including a number of Jewish believers, hold to be doctrinal errors. When the world behaves like this, that is the world. When believers behave like this, it is a disgrace to the Name and cause of Yeshua, bringing reproach upon His Gospel. We ourselves normally agree with Amir Tsarfati’s political commentaries. His “teaching,” however, is in the view of many believers a mixture of truth and error warranting honest, scripturally based discussion. Amir Tsarfati is indeed a tour guide and an officer in the military reserves, and is in a position to produce such political and strategic commentaries as a believer. He does not however pastor a congregation in Israel, he is not a Messianic theologian, nor speak for the Messianic leadership in Israel. Amir Tsarfati’s ministry is primarily to the church in the diaspora. We publicly call upon Amir Tsarfati to repent and apologize to Dean Gibson and Sonia Azam. The specific teaching of Amir Tsarfati challenged, concerned his false Christology that Yeshua is the Archangel Michael. When first accosted, he reacted by citing a Jehovah’s Witness cult false teaching, then Amir Tsarfati angrily blamed others as if he were a victim of something other than his own erroneous dogma. Now Amir files copyright violation claims where no violations exist. Regarding his second bogus copyright strike against the converted Moslem sister Sonia Azam, some of us even agree with Amir Tsarfati’s position on a Jewish antichrist. This however does not constitute a right to dishonestly sequester, by such utterly disingenuous means, material that reviews and dialogues about his proposition. The habitual belligerence exhibited by Amir Tsarfati in response to those in honest disagreement with him has now been replaced by a policy of demonstrable dishonesty.
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture (Full Movie) https://youtu.be/-UnZgFDI54I This video was produced by Alan Kurschner and Chris White. https://7pretribproblems.com/ *DISCLAIMER : MORIEL TV stands in complete doctrinal agreement and theological harmony with the excellent contents of this video production with regards to the Pre Tribulational Rapture position which we deem to be unscriptural and fundamentally incompatible with the unignorable factors highlighted in this video, as well as certain other further exegetical and historical considerations supporting the same conclusions. While the doctrinal positions of those within MORIEL TV are absolutely congruous with the producers and contributors of this video regarding the Pre Tribulational rapture view which we in common with the producers & contributors hold to be erroneous, there may be other areas outside of the scope of this video where we may either agree or disagree or partially agree. The academically well-presented and scholarly argumentation set out in this superb production, precisely parallels and echoes our own assertions with respect to this increasingly vital subject irrespective of any extraneous matters not specifically addressed in this video. We Thank The Lord Jesus , the Producers, and the Contributors for this important and valuable resource, and we encourage its circulation and dissemination within The Body of Christ globally. *** Moriel TV is active in the area of discernment withstanding the popular apostasy in the contemporary church that The Word of God warns would precede the return of Jesus. We remain firmly aligned to the conviction that contemporary events in The Middle East , Europe, and in the church make the present time in history different from other eras when people thought it was the last days. We affirm the belief that Jesus is coming again and prophecy of His return is radically being fulfilled increasingly. If you have any questions, please let us know. Every blessing to you
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
Good day brothers and sisters, we have a new video that I just posted on MorielTV. It’s a promo for the new In Focus Program Watch Live IN Focus on RTNTV.org Link to Youtube: https://youtu.be/tlHrMIe-R7U
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
His writings and a post-script from the present day, 50 years on A generation ago, the writings of Watchman Nee were very well known and appreciated in the Christian world of the West, though many of the readership who benefitted from his spiritual insights knew almost nothing of who he was. This in itself would have brought him much satisfaction! The writings of Watchman Nee and probably of many others of the spiritual giants of our past however, may be far from well known today, so some introduction is in order. Some of the information below which had faded from my memory was gleaned from Wikipedia which in this case seems to be reasonably accurate. Early days Watchman Nee (in Chinese Ni Tuo-Sheng 倪柝声) was born in Fuzhou, Fujian Province, China on November 4, 1903. He was a third-generation believer, his grandfather having been ordained in Fuzhou as an Anglican minister by the Church Missionary Society. Watchman was the third of nine siblings. Though his mother brought up all her children with the instruction of piety, Watchman by his own confession only came to faith in the Lord Jesus at the age of 17. A lady evangelist called Dora Yu had come to the Methodist church his mother attended, the “Church of Heavenly Peace” and was holding 10 days of meetings. It was 1920. One evening his mother returned from the meeting, sat her son down and gave him her heartfelt apology for a previous incident of unjust punishment. This kind of action is almost unthinkable within normal Chinese culture, an elder apologising to a younger person, especially a parent to her own offspring. Watchman was so deeply impressed he resolved he must find out at the next meeting what had brought about this new humility in his mother. After the meeting, he returned home and this is his testimony: — “On the evening of 28th April, 1920, I was alone in my room, struggling to decide whether or not to believe in the Lord. At first I was reluctant but as I tried to pray I saw the magnitude of my sins and the reality and efficacy of Jesus as the Savior. It seemed I could see the Lord’s hands stretched out on the cross, welcoming me, and the Lord was saying, “I am waiting here to receive you.” Realizing the effectiveness of Christ’s blood in cleansing my sins and being overwhelmed by such love, I accepted Him there. Previously I had laughed at people who had accepted Jesus, but that evening the experience became real for me and I wept and confessed my sins, seeking the Lord’s forgiveness. As I made my first prayer I knew joy and peace such as I had never known before. Light seemed to flood the room and I said to the Lord, “Oh, Lord, you have indeed been gracious to me.” Watchman was at that time still a student, within the middle school section of the prestigious Trinity College of Fuzhou. Much of the tuition of the school was in English. He was a very gifted student, with very high grades. He began to speak to his classmates of the Lord. Here again from his “Testimony”: — “Immediately I started putting right the matters that were hindering my effectiveness, and also made a list of seventy friends to pray for daily. Some days I would pray for them every hour, even in class. When the opportunity came I would try to persuade them to believe in the Lord Jesus… With the Lord’s grace I continued to pray daily, and after several months all but one of the seventy persons were saved”. — Watchman Nee, Watchman Nee’s Testimony. Watchman aspired to be a worker for the Lord, and attended Dora Yu’s Bible Institute in Shanghai, even while still a high school student. He was unable to keep up with the curriculum however and was eventually expelled for sleeping late and other breaches of discipline. These failures humbled him to seek help, and he was thus brought into touch with a British missionary living in Fuzhou, Margaret E. Barber. She became his teacher and mentor. He would visit her on a weekly basis to receive spiritual help. Miss Barber was a remarkable missionary in not being part of any society, not making any appeals for support, and spending much time in meditation on the scriptures, intercession and prayer without involvement in much “Christian activity”. Her faith, trust and also her gracious responses to those who criticised her for not being more “active” without doubt put a profound stamp into the young man’s life. She had taken Watchman and several other young men under her wing to disciple them. He said of her life “I shall always remember Miss Barber as a “Christian living in the light”. She was very strict with him in various matters, especially “looking first at the beam in your own eye” before speaking of others. On her death in 1930, she left all of her belongings to him. He wrote: “We feel most sorrowful concerning the news of the passing away of Miss Barber in Lo-Hsing Pagoda, Fujian. She was one who was very deep in the Lord, and in my opinion, the kind of fellowship she had with the Lord and the kind of faithfulness she expressed to the Lord are rarely found on this earth”. She had written many hymns and poems. Here is one: — If the path I travel Lead me to the cross, If the way Thou choosest Lead to pain and loss, Let the compensation Daily, hourly, be Shadowless communion, Blessed Lord, with Thee. Miss Barber had originally been an Anglican missionary with the CMS, resigning from the mission when she came into an understanding of believer’s baptism and “every believer a minister”. She introduced her young men to the works of Robert Govett, D.M. Panton, T. Austin-Sparks and Jesse Penn-Lewis, who were all writing on the nature of the church as a mutually interdependent body with many members and on “the life of the overcomer”. This led to Watchman acquiring works by J.N.Darby and many of the “Brethren” classics, C.H.Mackintosh, William Kelly, J.G. Bellett. He was by all accounts a phenomenal reader and accumulated in his library over 3000 titles on church history, Bible commentary and the spiritual life. In the early days of his ministry, he is said to have spent one-third of his income on personal needs, one-third to assist others, and the remaining third on spiritual books. His understanding of the nature of the church led him into contact with different strands of the “Brethren” movement in USA and Britain and he made visits to USA, UK and Europe in 1932 and 1933. In the group sometimes labelled the “Exclusives” led by James Taylor he was initially well received, but they rejected him when they found he had broken bread with T. Austin-Sparks of “Honour Oak Fellowship” and indeed with some missionaries of “the denominations” in China. There is an anecdote of Watchman sitting listening to a long discourse on doctrinal matters among the learned brethren going into tremendous detail, when he lost patience with them and exclaimed “Dear brothers, can any of you cast out demons in Jesus’ name?!” As a young man (30??) Marriage Watchman was severely tested in his love for Charity Chang, a young woman he had known from a childhood years. She ridiculed his faith when he was converted. There was a long struggle — “If you let me marry that girl, I will go to Tibet!” he had said. It seems the Lord was not at all interested in his volunteering to go to Tibet with the gospel; and at last he surrendered her into the hands of the Lord, and gave himself to the work that had opened up to him. Ten years later, however, after university graduation, Charity turned to the Lord. She began attending church meetings in Shanghai in 1934, and in the same year they were married. In those days Watchman was frequently ill, and Charity cared for him. Later in prison she was the only visitor he was permitted during his imprisonment. They had no children. Charity suffered one miscarriage. (Watchman and Charity at their wedding in Hangzhou in 1934) Ministry (From Wikipedia) In 1936, before a group of fellow workers, Watchman Nee outlined the commission of his ministry: “From the time I was bedridden by illness until the time I was healed by God, I was being shown more clearly the kind of work God wanted me to do: — Literary Work: After my illness, God made it known to me that the primary purpose of His imparting messages to me was not for explaining the Scripture, nor for preaching the ordinary Gospel, nor for prophesying, but for laying stress on the living word of life (as per John 5:39-40)… All that I have written has one aim, which is that the reader will, in the new creation, give himself wholly to God and become a useful person in His hands. Now I wholeheartedly commit my writings, my readers and myself to God, who preserves men for ever, and hope that His Spirit will guide me into all His truths. Meetings for the Overcomer: God opened my eyes to the necessity of raising up in churches at various places, a number of people who are victorious to be His witnesses… Therefore once every year a meeting for the victorious was held in which I faithfully proclaimed the messages which God has revealed to me. Building up Local Churches: When the Lord called me to serve Him, the prime object was not for me to hold revival meetings so that people may hear more Scriptural doctrines nor for me to become a great evangelist. The Lord revealed to me that He wanted to build up local churches in other localities to manifest Himself, to bear testimony of unity on the ground of local churches so that each saint may perform his duty in the Church and live the Church life. God wants not merely individual pursuit of victory or spirituality but a corporate, glorious Church presented to Himself. Youth Training: If the return of the Lord be delayed, it will be necessary to raise up a number of youths to continue the testimony and work for the next generation… My idea is not to establish a seminary or a Bible institute but to have the young people live a corporate life and practice spiritual life, that is, receive training for the purpose of edification and to learn to read the Scripture and to pray in order to build up good character. On the negative side, to learn how to deal with sin, the world, the flesh, natural life, and so on. At a suitable time they are to return to their respective churches to be tempered together with other saints to serve the Lord in the Church… In the future my personal burden and work will generally comprise these four aspects. May all the glory be to the Lord. — Watchman Nee, Watchman Nee’s Testimony. I believe it may be seen that indeed the Lord enabled His servant to fulfill this calling, in some ways beyond his anticipation; though no doubt as we all will do at the end, he would have said “We are unprofitable servants; we have done that which was our duty to do”. (Some facts here also from Wikipedia) Watchman began to write and publish at a very early age. In 1923, he began to publish the magazine The Present Testimony, and in 1925, he started another magazine entitled The Christian. It was also in 1925 when Nee changed his name from Ni Shu-tsu to Ni Tuo-sheng. The English translation of this is “Watchman Nee”, though actually the name means “Sound-of-the-bell Nee”. At the moment of his birth the watchman whose job it was to patrol the town through the night hours had been passing by. There were five “watches” in the Chinese night, and his mother had heard the watchman sounding one of these with his bell or clapper. He adopted this circumstance for his new name. At age 21, Watchman established his first assembly in Sitiawan, Malaysia while visiting his mother, who had moved there from China. In 1926, he established up another local church in Shanghai, which became the center of his work in China. By 1932, this example of meeting simply around the Lord’s table as local churches had spread throughout China, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore (The house churches which sprang up throughout the UK in the 70’s initially all followed this pattern “sitting together as family”, rather than as “facing-the-front-churches”). (Still from Wikipedia) In 1928, Watchman published a three-volume book entitled The Spiritual Man. In February of the same year, Nee held his first “Overcomer Conference” in Shanghai. In January 1934, he called a special conference on the subjects of “Christ as the Centrality and Universality of God” and “The Overcomers”. According to Nee, this was a turning point for him in his ministry. He said, “My Christian life took a big turn from doctrines and knowledge to a living person, Christ, who is God’s centrality and universality.” In 1938, Watchman traveled to Europe and gave messages that were later published as The Normal Christian Life. Upon his return, Nee gave a conference on the Body of Christ. This he said “was the second turn in my ministry” — “My first turn was to know Christ, and my second turn was to know His Body. To know Christ is only half of what the believers need. The believers also must know the Body of Christ. Christ is the head, and He is also the Body.” We will add a little more later on recommended reading from Watchman. The most controversial book he ever published was at first entitled (in Chinese) “Rethinking the Work” in 1938; then published in English in 1939 as “Concerning Our Missions”; later retitled “The Normal Christian Church Life”. The controversy here was the contention that the work of planting churches and preaching the gospel “in all the creation” in God’s economy was the full responsibility of local churches, and that missions and parachurch organisations formed in this intention came short of God’s fullness or purpose and indeed in certain ways hindered His purpose. He was very careful however not to say that God in His grace was not using these ways of working, or that He had done very much in China through the sacrificial labours of such mission groupings; indeed he maintained fellowship with many brethren who saw things differently, and had cooperative work with them. But the work was explosive in the storm of criticism it generated. Time however has validated so very much of what he has said; particularly on the soil of China itself where the growth of the church from 500,000 in 1949 to perhaps 50 million in 1990 took place substantially without overseas finance, aid, or “supervision”. One of the contentions of “Rethinking the work” was that each local church should be independent, responsible solely to the Lord as the Head to direct their labours. His thinking on “church” and the independence of each assembly before the Lord included the following principles: — (i) “The church” in any location, as defined by the Lord and owned as His body in that location, is composed of all the believers in that locality (1Cor.1:1). Whether brothers and sisters recognise each other and receive each other or not, this is the one and only true identity of the church. (this teaching was later much distorted by the “Witness Lee” group’s “local church doctrine” — see later). (ii) Each local church should rely on the Lord for needed finances, not looking to some overseas organisation or group for the financing of a “pastor” or evangelists (though giving and receiving gifts is normal in fellowship between churches, the expectation should always be from the Lord). (iii) Leadership of the local church should not be by a single “pastor”, but if possible be led by a plurality of elders. The commonly held structure of “pastor-elders-deacons” should be “elders-deacons” only; the qualification of each elder however given in 1Timothy and Titus effectively means that each elder must be a pastor by gifting and calling. If he is not a pastor in function, he should not be an elder. “Pastor” in the New Testament is not a title (Matt.23:8-11) but a function and gift. Brothers should not be calling anyone “Pastor”. (iv) All believers are priests and have a ministry; churches and church meetings should be oriented and arranged such that each believer has the opportunity to exercise his or her gifting for the building up of the whole; without that liberty and opportunity the church will be unable to grow to full stature. (v) Church structures where groups of churches are linked together with overall superintendence is maintained in a kind of “pyramid structure” were unbiblical. (vi) The responsibility of the Great Commission of Matt.28:19 to preach the gospel to all the nations is incumbent on each local church; before the Lord each church must know its responsibility and part in the whole. (vii) It should hardly need stating, but of course it must be stated, that Watchman along with the whole Brethren movement (this writer firmly included) that leadership (at least within the categories of elder and deacon) within the body of Christ is male. (viii) Those who go forth preaching the gospel establishing churches are “apostles” (“sent ones”). After churches are established, the apostle does not maintain any kind of formal authority over those churches he establishes (see Paul’s letters to the churches in Corinth especially); the apostle chooses elders in consultation with the saints, and then they are the ones in responsibility. Watchman would have abhorred the current usage of “apostle” as it is heard now in many Western churches; indeed his doctrine of “apostles” such as it is demolishes the NAR concept. An apostle in his definition could be simply substituted by the word “missionary” with no implication whatever of a man who is in receipt of new divine revelation. Indeed the only man who can be thus considered “apostolic” is one who has soaked and saturated himself in the “doctrine of the apostles and prophets” as foundation. Those who go out preaching the gospel should follow the instructions of the Lord to trust Him for their supply (Luke 10:4, 22:35). They are not to make appeals except to the Lord. This of course was upsetting to many missionaries and many missionary groups who constantly appealed to the churches of the West for funds. Watchman appreciated the labours of the CIM founded by Hudson Taylor more than most (CIM was founded on the principle of making no financial appeals); but one of his key observations was from Paul’s words in Acts 13:36: — “For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep…”. Watchman’s perceptive comment was that “David served his own generation; he could not serve two”. To seek to perpetuate a work of God through large-scale human organisation was the reasoning of the tower of Babel “Let us make us a name…”, going beyond trusting God for His grace. Our present generation has certainly abundant evidence that large organisations and indeed large denominational structures with oversight over whole areas or groups of churches not only inevitably fail but in the end apostasize, leaving behind what can often only be described as pagan temples and priesthoods. On the other hand “apostolic teams” can operate flexibly as need requires on a small scale, and groups of churches can cooperate in outreach together. These were some of the basic outlines of “Rethinking the work”. Ironically Watchman’s emphasis of “self-government” “self-support” and “self-propagation” (articulated it must be said also much earlier by some of the mission groups) was taken up by the so called “Three-Self Patriotic Movement” established by the Marxist regime in 1952 to act as a means of control of believers. However the meaning was completely changed — here “self-government” meant government by the state, “self-support” meant no contact or support from outside of any kind, and “self-propagation” meant only keeping the message inside the four walls of the “TSPM” state-controlled churches. That is still the general situation of the TSPM churches of China today, though local situations vary enormously, from men in TSPM pulpits fervently preaching the gospel to men putting forward basic Marxist propaganda in Christian disguise. In that respect it resembles something like the “Anglican” church, but with lots more state control. Probably 80% of China’s Christians meet entirely outside the regimen of the “TSPM” and will not join it in principle. Into Business In 1939, Watchman became involved with his second brother’s failing pharmaceutical company. He was under considerable family pressure to use his abilities to help his brother. At that very time because of his encouragement many young men had stepped out into ministry, shepherding the flock and going out to preach the word. He was intensely burdened to see many of them in desperately sore straits financially, and this enterprise looked like a solution. If successful, he could support them in their time of need. Later he was to make the judgement in hindsight that this had possibly been an error, and that painful though it was, he had left the path of faith in so doing. No doubt we will hear the final verdict in eternity. He took over full management of the factory, reorganised it, and began to employ many local church members from Shanghai. Some of the elders at Shanghai questioned his motivations and refused him their blessing and even their fellowship. To avoid controversy Watchman suspended his outward ministry activities in 1942. Ironically, at the very time he was being most heavily criticised, he was anonymously supporting some of the very brothers who were criticising him. Shortly afterward, the church in Shanghai stopped meeting altogether. When the Japanese surrendered in China on September 9 1945, Watchman returned to Shanghai from Chongqing where he had been overseeing the pharmaceutical factory. He revived his spiritual work in Shanghai, purchased housing for some of his co-workers, sold the factory and business and donated all the proceeds into the Lord’s work. Within a short time, the church in Shanghai grew to over 1000 members. Persecution and imprisonment After the “Liberation” of China by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) on October 1st. 1949, great persecution began. False charges and arrests were also brought against many foreign missionaries. Through intensive propaganda campaigns and threats of imprisonment, believers were influenced to accuse one another (Wikipedia). Part of the intimidation included the setting up of the state-run “Three-Self Patriotic Movement” (TSPM) church and pressurising all Christian leaders to join it. Wu Yaozong, a so-called Protestant minister, led the charge. Hundreds of brothers and sisters were subjected to “accusation meetings” and sentenced to jail. These included Allen Yuan (Yuan Xiangchen) and Wang Mingdao of Beijing, Moses Xie (Shanghai), Samuel Lamb (Guangzhou) and many other prominent leaders. It seems in the beginning however that Watchman had counselled that those churches in fellowship with him should express their positive resolve to submit to the new government; he did not publicly oppose the “TSPM”. Was this a mistaken counsel to be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves”? From his trial in 1952 onwards, his counsel would certainly have been different. On April 10, 1952, he was arrested in Shanghai by Public Security officers and charged with bribery, theft of state property, tax evasion, cheating on government contracts, and stealing of government economic information. He was at that time pronounced “re-educated”. On January 11, 1956, there was another nationwide sweep targeting the co-workers and elders in the many of the “Little Flock” local churches with more pressure to conform. Some died in labour camps, while others faced long prison sentences. On January 18, 1956, the Religious Affairs began twelve days of accusation meetings at the church assembly hall on Nanyang Road in Shanghai, in which many accusations were brought against Watchman in large “struggle meetings”. On June 21, 1956, he was brought before the High Court in Shanghai, where it was announced that he had been excommunicated by his own elders in the church in Shanghai and found guilty on all charges. He was sentenced to fifteen years imprisonment with reform by labour. These years were passed in different prison locations. Only his wife, Charity, was allowed to visit him. On January 29, 1956, Public Security took over the Nanyang Road building, and many of his co-workers were arrested, put into isolation, and forced to repudiate him. Some co-workers joined in the accusations while others, such as Peace Wang, Ruth Lee, and Yu Chenghua remained silent and were punished with life imprisonment. Following this, mass accusation meetings were held across the country to condemn the “anti-revolutionary sect of Watchman Nee”. Watchman’s friends in USA and elsewhere had all besought him to take the opportunity while the door was still open to stay in HK (he was on a visit there in 1950) and emigrate to USA, but he had steadfastly refused, saying that the shepherd’s place was to remain with his flock. Watchman’s remaining with the flock may be contrasted with a much later incident in 1997 when Hong Kong was officially “returned” to Chinese control. It is a matter of public record that over 50% of HK pastors and ministers purchased a foreign passport by one means or another and emigrated before the critical day of July 1st. (Many missions also in panic moved their offices to other locations in Asia). Of course all their anxieties as to an immediate clampdown were unfounded, but their emigration demonstrated what kind of shepherds these were — not shepherds but hirelings. These days Watchman Nee is often wrongly linked to a man who for some years was his co-worker, Witness Lee. Even before Witness Lee’s departure to Taiwan in 1949, there is some evidence of disagreement between them on the matter of authority and how it was to be exercised in the local assembly. After 1949, from his time in Taiwan onwards, Witness Lee began to espouse many other aberrant teachings including modalism, (denying the Trinity) and promoting his own translation of the scriptures (sometimes called the “Recovery Bible”). The disagreement between Watchman and Witness Lee is disclaimed however by Witness Lee’s group (sometimes called “Living Stream”) to this day. Initially they had both espoused the same definition of the “local church” which we gave above (we would too!). However Witness Lee went beyond that to say that unless believers in a locality submitted to elders which he or his people had appointed (as God’s “apostolic representatives” in the earth) then they were in rebellion against God’s appointed authority and under His chastisement. They could not indeed be considered as belonging to any church whatever. Shades of some other doctrines we have heard before somewhere, someone will say!! Witness Lee then sitting amid the perilous luxury of Taiwan began to send out a stream of instructions and exhortations to those who had espoused his teaching on the mainland, telling them in the face of all opposition they should march forth on the streets shouting “Hallelujah! Jesus is Lord!” at the top of their voice. Their meetings were also to be similarly conducted with prayer at maximum volume. Consequently they became known among the churches of China as “the Shouters” (呼喊派). Not surprisingly, many of these simple souls were very swiftly hauled off to the swelling labour camps. Those who encounter the teachings of Witness Lee can benefit from Walter Martin’s analysis of their movement here: — The helpful information below also is available on this Web page: — The False Gospel of Witness Lee and the Living Stream Ministries Walter Martin’s analysis of “Living Stream” was repudiated by CRI after his death, but see the later article below which show that fundamentally nothing has changed. “In late 2009, the Christian Research Institute (which is now headed by Hank Hanegraff, who is plagued with controversy and criticism and whose proper succession to Martin at CRI is disputed) published a special issue of the Christian Research Journal simply titled “We Were Wrong.” The whole issue is an apology to the “Local Churches” and an explanation of how CRI was wrong and how the LC are actually “soundly orthodox.” Norm Geisler and Ron Rhodes wrote a response to the CRI piece: http://www.open-letter.org/pdf/Geisler_Rhodes_Response_to_CRI.pdf — to which Hank Hanegraaff subsequently wrote a response in the latest issue of CRJ. ” Later imprisonment and death (Taken again from Wikipedia) One year before Watchman’s death in 1972, his wife, Charity, died due to an accident and high blood pressure; he was not allowed to attend her funeral. Her eldest sister then took the responsibility to care for her brother-in-law in prison. Though scheduled for release in 1967 he was still detained in prison until his death on May 30, 1972. There was no announcement of his death nor any funeral. His remains were cremated on June 1, 1972 before his family arrived at the prison. His grandniece recounts the occasion: — “In June 1972, we got a notice from the labor farm that my granduncle had passed away. My eldest grandaunt and I rushed to the labor farm. But when we got there, we learned that he had already been cremated. We could only see his ashes… Before his departure, he left a piece of paper under his pillow, which had several lines of big words written in a shaking hand. He wanted to testify to the truth which he had even until his death, with his lifelong experience. That truth is— “Christ is the Son of God who died for the redemption of sinners and resurrected after three days. This is the greatest truth in the universe. I die because of my belief in Christ. Watchman Nee.” When the officer of the labor farm showed us this paper, I prayed that the Lord would let me quickly remember it by heart… My granduncle had passed away. He was faithful until death. With a crown stained with blood, he went to be with the Lord. Although Watchman Nee did not fulfill his last wish, to come out alive to join his wife, the Lord prepared something even better—they were reunited before the Lord”. As with many ministries which have been of blessing to the saints, Watchman’s personal integrity has been attacked. Two books in particular, one in US published by Amazon by Lily Hsu and another published in Chinese in HK by the head of a Bible seminary have done this. These distasteful attacks are largely based on the evidence brought against Watchman in 1952 and then in 1956 by the Communist regime (accusation amounting to 2300 pages!). If any reader wishes for the sordid details the present writer has dug into this material and can show it reflects on the lack of integrity of those who have penned these two works, rather than in any way on Watchman’s integrity. The apostle John tells us “Demetrius has witness borne to him by all, and also by the Truth itself” (3John 12) and this writer believes that is true of Watchman — not that he never made a mistake or that his teachings are without defect — but that all who love Truth would know that this is a brother worthy of our high esteem. “Out of the eater comes forth meat” however, and in the course of looking at this deprecatory, indeed accusatory material, I found this very charming testimony (translated here from Chinese): — https://aboutbible.net/Ab/E.61.WatchmanNee.html “Back in Shanghai, Watchman Nee spoke about the importance of prayer. He told the congregation that knocking on the door is not knocking on the wall, just as looking for a specific goal, so is prayer. One afternoon, Mr. and Mrs. Nee were invited to a tea party. A missionary there gave a wrapped gift to Pin Hui. She opened it and was surprised to find that it was their lost wedding gift: a Bible. Asking her how she found it, the missionary told her a wonderful story: The missionary had returned to Ireland for a holiday, and was preaching a message at a party. In the midst of her message, she said, “If someone here has a Chinese Bible, it will help me explain it more clearly.” Someone handed her a Chinese Bible. When she opened the flyleaf, there in English were the words: “Reading this book will keep you from sin; sin will keep you reading this book.” . In Chinese, however it reads: “From Tuo Sheng to Pin Hui”. Now the gift was returned to its rightful owner, the two were deeply moved and rejoiced. It turned out that there was a British soldier serving in Shanghai, and when the Japanese army invaded setting houses on fire (sic) he also took advantage of the fire, entered a burning house hoping to get something. He saw the Bible and took it back to England, to give to his parents as a souvenir. Now, the “unfindable had become found”..”. Watchman’s books and writings As Watchman authored or was indirectly the “author” of over 150 books (many were put together from notes made at conferences where he was speaking) we only commend simply here a few. A fairly full list is found below: — https://www.cbmministry.org/Books_By_Watchman_Nee.php His best best-known book in English is The Normal Christian Life , which is based on talks he delivered in English during a trip to Europe in 1938 and 1939. This is a straightforward exposition of Romans for a new believer (and was a great help to this present writer as a young believer). Other books which are simple to follow and very useful: — Sit, Walk, Stand (1957) (exposition of Ephesians) What Shall this Man Do? (1961) (a look at the different ministries of Peter, John and Paul) Love Not the World (1968) “Normal Christian Church Life” has already been mentioned “The Spiritual Man” was a book he later said he regretted writing. Some have found parts of it mystical; it is written as a book of Biblical psychology, looking at man as body, soul and spirit. Certainly not a book recommended for new believers; my own view of it as a book was that it produced much introspection. One point in which I would qualify what our brother writes is that he places the three functions of will(power), emotions and thought/reason within the soul (psuche) of a man, and the three functions of knowledge, intuition and conscience within the spirit (pneuma). I would place the function of will(power) as overlapping into both. Now some will say I am being mystical! One small book which I think deserves attention is “The Latent Power of the Soul” which was a kind of “addendum” to “The Spiritual Man”. This also appeared slightly rewritten as “Spiritual Obsession”. This book gives some very useful understandings (among other things) as to why some men of our present age have seemingly begin in genuine spiritual giftings and ended up in falsehood, deception and manipulation, even functioning in the demonic, by functioning in their own “soul-power”, not the true power of the Holy Spirit. Watchman’s biography written by Angus Kinnear who spent two months with him before himself setting out for service in India as a medical missionary, is also very much worth the read: — Kinnear, Angus (1973). Against the Tide . Fort Washington: Christian Literature Crusade. On the overall history of the churches of China and the phenomenal growth over the last 60 years, readers who have not seen the 4-part series produced by “China Soul” on the history of the church in China, are commended to watch. Online links below. A mighty encouragement to the soul! The original documentary “The Cross in China” was in mandarin but these are dubbed over into English. They are about an hour each English translation on Youtube — the four parts: — Part II (Seeds of Blood) is the most moving of all, the interviews with the older brethren. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYt003mw5_I&list=PL8ADlW-GGgLHiX_vj6RrGVuBcLMXR5tI- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egWC9URk77k&index=2&list=PL8ADlW-GGgLHiX_vj6RrGVuBcLMXR5tI- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWkFzCcdVg&index=3&list=PL8ADlW-GGgLHiX_vj6RrGVuBcLMXR5tI- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa1saiWejjo&index=4&list=PL8ADlW-GGgLHiX_vj6RrGVuBcLMXR5tI- All of the heroes rightly celebrated in the hall of faith in Hebrews chapter 11 show in one way or another that they as we have feet of clay, and Watchman is no exception. But as a man among those who “have hazarded their lives for our Lord Jesus Christ” (Acts 15:26) he commands the respect of every follower of the Lord. God give us such men of fire in our generation, and make us such ourselves! Postscript 50 years on Our Lord tells us concerning prophets and teachers that “by their fruits you shall know them”. One fruit of Watchman’s labours across China was that by 1949 some estimates say there were 500 (some say 1000) assemblies of the “Little Flock” as they came to be called, with perhaps 150,000-300,000 believers. One of these was in a city in a very remote corner of China where this present writer had the privilege of spending some time. The assembly had been established there since 1941. They had moved there “lock, stock and barrel” as a group of families from another location, as was a common practice among the Little Flock to establish a work in a new area. The church was led by an elderly brother in his 80s whom everyone called “Uncle Hu”. There were 3-400 meeting in a private courtyard in the city each Sunday morning early, at a time when the government had made a kind of concessionary but unofficial allowance to house churches that meetings were allowed in homes with no more than 20 in attendance. The gathering was therefore under much pressure with so many present on a Sunday. Uncle Hu himself had spent over 14 years in jail. This particular assembly had separated from another Little Flock congregation in the city over the issue of government registration (a sort of “half-way house” towards the “3-self” TSPM position). Uncle Hu and his eldership were firmly set against this. I never got to meet Uncle Hu in person but one of the young men within their team of “co-workers” and with some responsibility for preaching would come visit me on occasion. Our conversation would always be solely taken up with the Lord and His word, and the task of spreading His word to some of the various ethnic minorities in the area. I knew from many that brother Hu had a most powerful preaching and expository ministry, often continuing for about 2 hours each Sunday. His ministry often incorporated something very specific for some of his hearers, which we might call a word of knowledge. These were always very significant for the recipients and a great encouragement. There were healings both in and outside the meetings and other miracles. But what was impressive not only with this congregation but with other ministering brothers I met across north China at that time (early 90s) that the true miraculous workings of the Lord were accepted as “a matter of course”. I never saw anyone “make a big deal” out of it; the ministry of the word and the regeneration of souls was the priority. I am quite sure that this was the legacy of those “mighty men” of the 40s who set this tone in their own ministry for the generation to come in regard to a balanced view of spiritual gifts. Though this was a “Little Flock” assembly, in fact my conversations with brother Z. hardly mentioned Watchman or his ministry. This was no man-centred cult, the Lord and His word were constantly at the centre. I am quite sure Watchman would have rejoiced to see that in one sense he had been forgotten or in another sense “left behind”. He will certainly have much joy in it one day if he does not rejoice in it even in the present. Another aspect to many spiritual giftings I observed in operation within the church was what I can only call their “unrepeatability”. Nobody could ever have the foolish idea of imitating them. Here was one. After one Sunday morning meeting I happened to meet a sister who had been present. She told me very much moved that a certain beloved brother had been taken from them the previous night at about 3 am, simply dying in his sleep. He was apparently in good health, but the family discovered at 3 am that he had gone. Another sister had been in prayer late at night the evening before and related that the Lord had given her the revelation that this dear man would be taken from them that very night. She rose up to the matter and began to plead earnestly with the Lord for him to be allowed to remain with them. After some hours of intercession, at about 3 am she had said “I simply gave him into the hands of the Lord, and with complete peace I knew that this was His gracious will”. At the morning meeting, when his family had stood to relate to the assembly the matter of his passing, this sister then rose with tears to tell the company what had transpired for her in her waiting upon the Lord. It was not an exaggeration to say that “fear came upon every soul”. The assembly continued to grow week by week despite regular visits from the government to brother Hu and his eldership to warn them they would not tolerate this large unofficial Sunday meeting. One Sunday Uncle Hu rose and told the congregation “Do not think that it is the government who is pressing us to divide up into small groups for fellowship and ministry. This is the hand of the Lord; and now all of us, sisters included, must be ready to take up responsibility for the ministry to one another in small groups. It is time for us to be scattered”. I knew not a few brothers rejoiced to hear this, as many of the congregation had had this very conviction; but shortly afterwards it seemed Uncle Hu became fearful that the saints were not ready and backtracked on his plan. Some of the young men of the congregation went to plead with him, especially a group of about 5-6 very gifted young men who were seeing hungry people coming to their small meetings in the suburbs; many of those coming to listen were elderly people who found the Sunday journey to the centre of town very arduous, on buses jammed to the very doors, and in the winter in freezing temperatures of below -20˚C. Apart from everything else, they were so impoverished that they could not afford the bus fare of about 5 US cents equivalent. Uncle Hu remained adamant, however. Despite their great respect for him, the young men saw their responsibility as shepherds of His sheep as a greater priority than their normal submission to him on many issues; and so (without his blessing, indeed in the face of his solemn warning) they began meetings in 3 or 4 locations on a Sunday around the city with groups of 20-40 people attending. It seemed like the sovereign Lord smiled on their decision and within the space of a further 5 years these small meetings had blossomed into 50 congregations across the whole region, and as far as this writer knows, are expanding still. These very precious young men (actually now not so young!) continue in their ministry, with the firm hold on the new covenant principle of “the priesthood of all believers” which our brother Nee so thoroughly imparted to those God gave him 50 years before in Shanghai. “Let us not grow weary in well-doing; for in due season, we shall reap, if we faint not” (Gal.6:9). The author is a UK born evangelist who also represents Moriel in Hong Kong.
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz September 2, 2020
Sergio Mariani has begun a series on the book of Romans. https://youtu.be/siTTfg6zn6U It is a must watch. Great exposition of the book or Romans. Please share this with your Spanish speaking family and friends. Much needed reminder of the grace of God through our Lord Jesus Christ. More teachings to come, stay tuned! Follow Sergio Mariani on his own channel where you will find worship music, teachings and well done series on “Know your enemy” in Spanish. https://www.youtube.com/user/sergiomarianimusic/featured
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz August 20, 2020
AS THEIR SHIP SINKS, THEY ARE AT IT AGAIN. JUST LET THEM RANT. THE Sinking Ship is Studio Scotland, and its adjuncts ‘Bethel’, and GV 24/7 TV. It is difficult to call this enterprise a “declining ministry” because it operates not as a ministry, but as a ‘ministry business’, which represents itself to the Christian public as if it were a ministry. This week, it was disclosed to the international news media what becomes of ‘Christian ‘ films in Communist China. This policy is not new, but the law on the books is. Moriel terminated its relationship with Studio Scotland & GV 24/7 due to both doctrinal and ethical concerns some time ago. Their efforts to re-launch GV 24/7 have floundered as the stats indicate that practically no one watches it; viewership is chronically low. The mysticism charged conspiracy theory charade of the women’s ministry’ saw pastors informing us that Deborah Menelaws is ‘lunatic fringe’ and will never be permitted back to their churches. The big decline however is in their film and video production and the shameful scandal surrounding their premier film ‘The Daniel Project’ (and the rather low-grade flop with acting, supposedly based on it, ‘The Daniel Connection’). The Menelaws produced the Daniel Project around the narration of myself in dialogue with a major secular voice artist who was paid secular professional rates (footage of myself was also included in the idiotic Daniel Connection after I refused to ‘act’ in it). I agreed to be paid nothing as did the Christian extras etc. on the Daniel Connection because we were told that ‘it was for evangelism and we were ‘doing it for The Lord’. The film was then sold to Hollywood (California Pictures/ Paramount), and The Daniel Connection was sold to Communist Chinese interests, assuring it would not be translated into Mandarin to evangelize Chinese people, even while China was stepping up its cruel persecution of believers. This is Deborah Menelaws. I did this as an evangelistic endeavor, not a commercial one. I did it Jesus and for the lost, not to sell it to Hollywood or Communist Chinese. I am still waiting for my money which I want donated to a charity helping persecuted Christians. Our lawyers and the BBC confirmed that someone need not be a member of an actors union to be paid for a role in a film, and contributors are regularly paid for documentaries. I want to give my pay to the persecuted Christians in China whom Menelaws betrayed for money, selling the film ostensibly produced to evangelise. The Communist Chinese Party & government (which control regulates all sectors – social & commercial), maintains strict policies against any Christian films that can be used to spread the Gospel: please view: https://fxn.ws/308cUT6 But the Menelaws just did not care. Ministry is only a business, and Business is Business. As long as it sells, you can pay top, expensive secular Hollywood talent, such as Caroline Goodall handsomely, but use, exploit, and bamboozle good and well-intentioned saved Christians into working in it without any pay at all by telling them they are doing it for The Lord and for the Gospel of Jesus. Then it is sold it to a cruel, demonized, Christian persecuting regime in Communist China, assuring the film will never be used to spread the Gospel of Jesus. This the Menelaws did. Unlike legitimate ministries which are registered and incorporated as Christian Charities, the Menelaws’ Studio Scotland is registered as ‘for profit’ commercial enterprise they portray to people as being a ministry. Several people were shocked to discover the truth and have described them to us as religious frauds pretending to be a ministry. The Daniel Project is their Premier production, which ironically, and in an act of Divine retribution, features me and promotes our ministry at the same time they are endlessly attacking myself & Moriel. I must laugh. No other Christian film they have produced has achieved the merit and notoriety of The Daniel Project, and no other film they produce ever shall. God has removed His Hand from them and as a supposedly ‘Christian’ venture Studio Scotland and its ancillaries have declined as has GV 24/7. All they can do is wallow in the mire of their decline and moan & rant with malice, resenting others for their reaping of what they themselves have sowed. What the Chinese paid them is by scriptural definition ‘filthy lucre’ good for nothing other than buying a potter’s field. After webcasting the videos of the David Nathan heresy promoted by Menelaws & GV 24/7, and producing copies of the sales certificates of films to the world that Christians worked for free on believing it was for the Gospel, Moriel was showered with letters and emails thanking us for showing them the truth about Menelaws and their shameless escapades. Now, they no longer watch GV 24/7. Indeed, hardly anyone does. That ship is sunk and won’t be salvaged. God will not be mocked. He won’t allow it. They seem to have abandoned their server & platform due to diminished viewership and only post on Youtube with a very low amount of interest. After posting a heavily edited video from Bill Randles’ church misrepresenting what transpired with David Nathan, even Mr. Bill Randles was publicly compelled to acknowledge that Menelaws lied intending to deceive the Body of Christ. William Randles Yet you call him out, accusing him of being self-seeking. Facebook is not the only front this battle is being waged on. We are sincere when we say that David Nathan’s doctrines are a problem, just as I have been sincere when I called Jacob on his language. What you seem to want is to call me out and shame me for not being as adamant as you think I ought to be about Jacob. There are other issues as well, for example, the Menelaws are using an excerpted video (from our church) which can be construed as having Jacob agree with David Nathan’s teaching on the Millenial sacrifice. Nothing could be further from the truth, but they continue to run it anyway(last time I checked). This is a mess brother indeed, but don’t exacerbate it by wildly implicating people who either have no real connection to it, or like me, who are and have been trying to deal with the problem, and don’t deserve to be treated a though they haven’t. I thought you already said you wanted to “Move On”? In reaction to our response, Menelaws reacted by cyber vendetta with a non-Christian organization called ‘Catalyst’ known for controversy in the UK. This organization states on its website that it has ‘no religious beliefs of any kind’ and represents people of any faith (Moslem, Mormon, Hindu) and of ‘any sexual orientation’ (homosexual, lesbian, bi-sexual, trans-sexual). Having no scriptural basis for their defense of the heresies of David Nathan etc., they went to the world just as they sold the Christan films to the world. Because David Nathan is fully Jewish, though his family is not (I am the opposite; I am not but my family are), his orthodox Judaism was why he taught on one video that he, and not non-Jews could not understand his heretical denials of fundamental Judeo-Christian truths. This fueled a stupid campaign attacking my own genealogy as not being sufficiently Jewish, (or Jewish at all), as a standard to establish David Nathan’s theological credibility over mine by David Nathan’s heretical followers. It was asserted that I & Moriel were ‘under investigation’ when in fact we have never been investigated by any juridical body or agency in any jurisdiction. It was asserted that we are a cult that abuses its members, when in fact we have never had any members. It was also alleged that I reaped large financial earnings from the sale of recorded material, when in fact all of our material had long been available on-line for free download. When these ridiculous efforts (which our lawyer, a well known Christian Rights Crusader, himself a believing Jew, made fun of) were shown as disingenuous and contrived, Menelaws maliciously fabricated other concocted strategies they invented. The first was false allegations of financial impropriety. Our audited accounts in both the UK & USA are in complete accord with the laws ®gulations of both countries as in other countries. The UK records filed annually with the UK Charities Commission indicate that I receive no salary, solicit no personal support, nor accept any book sales royalties. Thus they resorted to distorting publicly available financial reports in the USA where the tax laws and charity regulations differ from Britain. In the American system, the legal & financial manner in which book royalties are not accepted is to accept the royalties and return them to the incorporated charity as a tax deduction, where the author becomes a donor. Book sales are a fiscal mainstay of Moriel. The royalties must be paid, reported in the audited annual financial report, and declared on my income taxes as a deduction. Also, the designated fund’s regulations apply. If a donor sends a gift designated for a specific country, mission project, missionary, evangelist, or otherwise, by US law it must go to where designated and this must be shown in the audited accounts for the IRS. I am not allowed by the policies of Moriel to solicit personal gifts or honourariums, but as long as reported and declared, I can accept them. What Menelaws did was to only report the income ($147,000) without reference to royalties being redonated as a tax deduction under US law and duly reported. This caliber of slander and defamation has become Menelaw’s hallmarks. Lest our right-hand knows what the left-hand does, I can give no figures. For the record, however, David Lister & myself are two of Moriel’s largest supporters, and the ministry gets 60% of earnings from my secular intellectual property business. Some of these assets are South African domain names, but were acquired – not registered, and are not even held in South Africa itself, nor is their sale being negotiated with South Africa. This does not meet the legal definition or criteria for further false allegations of a form of extortion known as ‘cybersquatting’. It is a lie. Following their David Nathan fiasco, the Menelaws and a few accomplices supportive of David Nathan, then attacked my genealogy. My testimony has been in the public domain for decades. Ancestorily, my family name was Brasch altered to Prasch (as the burial records show, and as Rosebrough & Menelaws themselves affirmed), and were buried in Jewish cemeteries with burial certificates in both names – Brasch & Prasch. The altered name means ‘Pharisee’ but is not original. I have copied dozens of people the original ‘Prasch’ Jewish burial documents. Today, apart from Orthodox Jews, many Jews are buried with non-Jewish spouses in Christian or secular cemeteries (In Forest Lawn, George Burns is buried in the same crypt as Walt Disney and New York Mayor Ed Koch is buried in Trinity churchyard, etc.). In pre holocaust Europe however, this was not the case. The original Family name moreover is Jewish, not German as claimed by Meelaws etc. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Moritz Brasch (1843–1895), Polish-German Jewish philosopher Charles Orwell Brasch (1909–1973), New Zealand Jewish poet, literary editor, arts patron Arno Brasch (1910–1963), German Jewish physician; (de) Rudolph Brasch (1912–2004), German-Australian rabbi, author Thomas Brasch (1945–2001), German Jewish writer, dramatist, editor, lyricist Walter M. Brasch (1945–2017), an American Jewish journalist Claims by Menelaws/ Bethel echoing claims by Chris Roseborough and supporters of David Nathan to have received genealogical data from my family are a lie. He contacted two of them and both thought he was someone crazy and told him to cease contacting them. Additionally, apart from cemetery records (the Nazis only desecrated, vandalized and defaced Jewish graves with swastikas), in the ‘Juden Spulen‘, all German Jewish birth, death, and marriage records were incinerated by Hitler to purge any record of German Jewry. Rosebrough & Co. (Menelaws, Rogers, etc.) could not possibly have pieced together an accurate genealogy without such essential documentation. In his fabricated DNA chart, Rosebrough redefined Nationality as Ethnicity to mislead. The inaccurate genealogies I have seen have do not contain relatives familiar to me but do have ones I never even heard of. Every member of the Moriel team now has the burial record from Jewish cemeteries verifying Prasch/ Brasch is buried as Jews. It is Jewish burial records and DNA that are used by the Jewish Agency and Diasporic Institute (Beit Ha’Tfutsot) to determine Jewish heritage and ancestry where there are no civil birth, death, and marriage certificates or synagogue records. Unfortunately, we cannot post much of this data on-line as Rosebrough has lied about other documents we have posted and harassed my family (including non-believers). However, any Moriel supporter already on our mail list who wishes to physically see certified documentation can be allowed to do so by prior arrangement. I also agreed not only to bring my documents to debate, but even go directly to the Jewish Agency with Rosebrough, but Rosebrough declined to debate the issues that he initially raised concerning John Mac Arthur’s teaching on the ‘mark of the beast’, and Roseborough’s endorsement of Doreen Virtue following his initial denunciation of her as a “polished scam” on the video of her sold by Sid Roth. Some graves have ‘Prasch’, others ‘Brasch’, but others have both – substantiating it is the same family. My ancestors lived in Hamburg, Bad Orb, Dresden, and Leipzig. Most however emigrated (and assimilated) to the USA & UK. As with all German Jewry, certain burial records and grave locations survive. The other data being burned when synagogues were demolished. Some of these interment records are available on-line on Jewish burial sites .
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz July 21, 2020
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz July 19, 2020
James Jacob Prasch would indeed be happy to debate Chris Roseborough on the diversionary issue of ‘The Metatron’
in a second public debate in Jerusalem as is proposed, once the actual John Mac Arthur/ Doreen Virtue issue that Mr. Roseborough himself initially and publicly accosted Jacob Prasch for on video, is first debated. As his videos document, Mr. Roseborough’s defense of John Mac Arthur’s ‘Mark of The Beast’ teaching, and his support of the ‘ministry’ of Doreen Virtue with the apparition of her “3 D Jesus with the radiating ‘sacred heart’ but no nail marks”, was and remains the basis of conflicting opinion as was voiced and video documented by Mr. Roseborough himself. Once his ‘John Mac Arthur Derangement Syndrome’ & ‘Doreen Virtue’ polemics as first raised by Mr. Roseborough are publicly debated in front of a live stream camera, we will be utterly delighted to debate the ‘Metatron’ in Jerusalem. As the headquarters of
’Ha Sochnut’ (The Jewish Agency) which determined that Jacob Prasch is of Jewish descent and awarded him an
immigration certificate on that basis, is also located in Jerusalem, it would be an ideal location. The bogus amateur Wikipedia Genealogist antics, and fraudulently concocted DNA pie chart (that is not even Jacob’s actual personal sample DNA) fabricated by Mr. Roseborough can be permanently debunked with a simple visit with two independent witnesses (and if security allows – a video recording) to The Jewish Agency. We would look forward to debating the Metatron in this second debate, once the original matter publicly presented on Youtube by Mr. Roseborough as the grounds for his contention has been debated first. Any efforts to circumvent or circumlocute the core issue however by means of changing the narrative, moving the goal post, or diverting to another issue in order to avoid the real one as first laid out By Mr., Roseborough, can only be viewed as a cowardly sham. We therefore accept the second debate challenge in Jerusalem on The Metatron, after the first debate on the very core issues Mr. Roseborough himself first confronted us with in the public arena. We now look forward to not one debate, but two. We respectfully propose that the first debate be held in the USA as it would give the most streamed live time accessibility to the most viewers. Moriel/ JJP
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz June 16, 2020
In public reply to Mr. Roseborough’s support of John Mac Arthur’s position on accepting the ‘mark of The Beast’ and still being saved in league with Doreen Virtue & Phil Johnson, I extended to him a willingness to debate these issues he raised on live-stream (I also expressed my willingness to bring my ID and DNA report if he was interested, although this was not the issue). Mr. Roseborough embarked on a frantic tirade, first insisting people ignore my opposition to his promotion of Doreen Virtue and her bogus Christophany and his defense of the Mac Arthur 666 teaching which I regard as false. They source of these cult allegations was an agency professing to have no Christian beliefs and representing homosexuals, lesbians, Moslems, Mormons etc. The evidence we provided undermined his claims and he suddenly dropped yelling ‘cult’ and shifted to attacking the evangelistic teaching ‘Metatron’. His attacks are likewise demonstrably devoid of foundation. Next he attacked my ancestry with a lunatic video mixing baseless rubbish with elements of truth. All of this to divert from debating. The % pie chart he designed is NOT my DNA and I have no ancestors I ever heard of with names such as ‘Gray’ . What I do know is that my own DNA confirms that I am not even 1% German (although I had ancestors who lived in Germany, they were not ethnic German; he seems to try to mislead people by using civil national identity as if it were ethnic). He engages in Wikipedia Genealogy just as he does Wikipedia theology. He admits my original family name is Brasch and that it is Jewish, and that I had a forefather named Jacob (anglicized to James upon immigration to USA, reverting to Jacob or Yakov when I immigrated to Israel as I documented). Somehow he tries to determine that because my ancestors arrived in the USA from one place and not Leipzig where there were a number of Jews named Brasch, that the name does not apply to me. This is of course ridiculous. Since he likes Wikipedia all he needs to do is Google “Brasch’ on Wikipedia to find prominent Jews of that name in Britain, Germany & The USA. He also makes a big deal of burials. In fact NY Mayor Ed Koch (the most famous Jewish politician in American history) is buried in Trinity Church, and many intermarried & assimilated people want burial with their spouses (this is very common and means nothing). I grew up in the Jewish community but never in Judaism (I was Roman Catholic). But after the ‘cult’ claims & Metatron he needs another straw to divert away from the debate. He bickers on line, but no debate. The absurd and obvious lie of Mr Roseborough however is that a legal Israeli government document I presented on video to show I have 3 names was a form to report & replace my misplaced Israeli ID (I stated on the video that the form was not the certificate). If someone reports a lost license or passport it automatically proves there is an original one. This is common sense. Mr. Roseborough idiotically states that it is an ‘application’ for an Israel immigration certificate. The application process for immigration called aliyah takes about 2 months and requires vetting etc. The ‘sochnut’ (Jewish Agency) which legally determines Jewish identity for civil (non-religious) purposes, issued me an immigration certificate stating Jewish identity ( I was legally declared Jewish because I did not discuss my faith). He said it was like him “applying for a pilot’s license and stating he can fly”. This is lunacy. A legal ID form to report a lost immigration certificate requesting it be replaced is not an application to obtain one. As usual, he is irrational, dishonest, and only trying to avoid debate on the actual issues he is running from. If he wants to examine my ID and DNA report etc., as I offered, all he needs to do is to show up to debate. His genealogy diversion, his Metatron diversion, and his cult leader diversion all prove that he is afraid to debate. JJ Prasch / Moriel
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz June 16, 2020
https://soundcloud.com/amos-farrell/dispensations-and-covenants-james-jacob-prasch
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz June 16, 2020
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz January 9, 2020
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-imposes-harsh-new-rules-governing-religious-groups-in-2020 Also read: http://blog.moriel.orgauthors/scott-noble/made-in-china-the-history-of-buddhism-in-the-middle-kingdom-part-vi.html Fwd: China imposes harsh new rules governing religious groups in 2020 | Fox News http://blog.moriel.org/authors/scott-noble/made-in-china-the-history-of-buddhism-in-the-middle-kingdom-part-vi.html
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz November 28, 2019
Trump Should Not Be Removed from Office: A Response to Mark Galli and Christianity Today Trump Should Not Be Removed from Office: A Response to Mark Galli and Christianity Today
By EkKBeftXIpl bwoxjtHz November 28, 2019
As much as I welcome, the Archbishop of Canterbury for his solidarity with the Chief Rabbi’s stance on Jeremy Corbyn, I do not welcome the so-called support of Muslim Council of Britain, because, what is the difference between Adolph Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajimi Al-Alhusseini during the European Jewry Holocaust? Let the Muslim Council of Britain first condemn the actions of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem’s role in the holocaust before jumping onto a popular bandwagon at this point, because the Labour Party has been hijacked by Islamists and it is the reason for Jeremy Corbyn counting on the Muslim’s voting block to ignore blatant Muslim hijacking of the Labour Party to impose a culture of antisemitism, hatred of Jews, anti-Israel and anti-Zionism in the Labour Party. The root of antisemitism in the Labour Party comes from this Muslim hijacking of Labour. It must not be swept under the carpet, as the role played by the Grand Muffti of Jerusalem during the holocaust, which has remained ignored that the Muslims were as guilty as Adolph Hitler. They should not just pretend and blame it on Jeremy Corbyn. Although Jeremy Corbyn is antisemite, and Muslims have exploited it for their benefits when they hijacked the Labour Party. Both are not different from the other, as Hajimi Al-Alhusseini was the tail, and Adolph Hitler was the head of a penny coin. These two are not better than the other. Birds of the same feathers flocks together. No whitewash of their culpability should be ignored. They drove Jews out of the Labour Party. The slogan was Jews and Bible-Christians out of the Labour Party… Muslims take over. Therefore, any vote for the Labour Party, is a vote for ISLAM, sharia, and Islamisation of Great Britain. That is the agenda of MCB. They should not pretend, they hound with the DEVIL in the wee hours of the night, and come out publicly to weep with the bereaved, they murdered in the secret.
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